Aug 31 • 56M

Emotional intelligence, navigating race and fatherhood in the UK | Ben Williams (father of 2, advisor at

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Adam Fishman
Ben Williams
Adam Fishman interviews executives, entrepreneurs, and company leaders in technology companies who are also fathers. We discuss the tough aspects of work, parenting, family, the mistakes made and lessons learned along the way. It's heartwarming and hilarious.
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Ben Williams is a product and engineering executive and was most recently the VP Product at Snyk; an $8B developer tools company. He is currently a Product and Growth advisor and owner of as well as The Product Led Geek Newsletter. Ben is a husband and father of two kids and my first international interview (he hails from the UK).

In this episode we discuss:

  • The importance of therapy in a successful career and marriage and how it's stigmatized in the UK

  • His early exposures to racism and his upbringing in a mixed race family in the UK

  • Meeting your wife on a dating app

  • The challenges and joys of being a Dad

  • Growing up in a strict household

  • How a career never prepares you for the rollercoaster of fatherhood

  • Sacrifices you make to be more present

  • How life is different for parents in the UK than the States

  • Building a robust support network

  • Hilarious stories about "birthing class."

  • Rapid Fire - UK edition

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Where to find Ben Williams

- Twitter (aka X):

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In this episode, we cover:

[2:06] Welcome

[2:47] Professional background

[4:55] Career prepped for parenting?

[5:17] Childhood family environment/racism

[10:06] Partner/kids

[13:15] Earliest memory of being a dad?

[14:20] UK prep for baby

[18:06] Making sacrifices

[22:26] Risk awareness

[23:17] UK/USA parenting/mental health

[26:23] Emotional intelligence

[29:29] How do kids get along?

[31:28] Support structures

[33:36] Parenting frameworks

[36:32] Partner disagreement

[39:31] Mistake as a father?

[40:46] Comfort zone in parenting

[41:15] Work/home balance

[47:22] Talking to kids about racism

[49:20] Rapid fire round

Show references:

The University of Manchester




Polycystic ovary syndrome (PCOS)


National Childbirth Trust (NCT)

In vitro fertilization (IVF)

Brazilian jiu-jitsu (BJJ)

Fresh Food Feeder

Playmobile Large Princess Castle



Acorn Electron

Sinclair ZX Spectrum

BBC Micro

VW ID. Buzz


Bob Marley

Peppa Pig

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Episode art designed by Matt Sutherland at